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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 19:36:34 GMT -5
Upton and Price are all invalid bids.
Rule 3: Salary Cap states you must be within 80% to 120% of AAS on AAS bids of $20m or more.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 19:45:42 GMT -5
These are the next highest bids. I'm shoveling and didn't do the math yet but these are the next higest bidders
1) David Price 5 YRS= 75M AAS 15M- 2015-2020 braves
5.Justin Upton- yanks
6 years $150M
AAS $25M
15:$32M 16:32M 17:$27M 18:$25M 19:$18M 20:$16M
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To Justin Upton,
the Reds offer a contract of six (6) years at AAS $21.0M, the total contract amount at $126.0M. The salary breakdown is (40 percent of 19 is 8.4):
15: $14.0M
16: $19.0M
17: $26.0M
18: $26.0M
19: $22.0M
20: $19.0M
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 19:47:53 GMT -5
2015, 2017 and 2018 are invalid
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 19:48:57 GMT -5
Oh. And I know this rule is real. Kershaw last year. See my original matched offer and what I have today. Much different due to this rule.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 19:53:04 GMT -5
Can you link me to this rule? I'm struggling to find this.
When I was constructing my Justin Upton offer i was using the usual
"The highest single year salary of a contract may not exceed AAS times 2.5.
In addition to Rule 7 minimum salary limits, the lowest single year salary of a contract may not be less than 40% of AAS."
I could be wrong, so I'm not calling you a liar, I'm just not sure where it came from.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 19:58:30 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 19:59:52 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 20:01:59 GMT -5
Okay I see it now. Man...that was buried. This once again proves that we need to clean up our rules because I didn't even know that one existed in the 6 years that I've been here lol
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 20:04:19 GMT -5
I didn't know until last year with Kershaw.
If I wasn't bidding on scherzer I would have missed it. I even have on my spreadsheet to make sure I don't miss it. Crazy!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 20:07:53 GMT -5
I feel like we need to post all the front loading/backloading rules whenever we post the big RFA thread along with the minimum years per amount AAS you offer as well as the compensation...that's a pretty big deal when offering a contract. That's 2 years in a row where I bid on one of your free agents Mike and both times a different buried rule is gonna beat me up. I may just stay away from your RFA guys lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 20:09:35 GMT -5
I was thinking same thing on both points. Lol
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 20:13:53 GMT -5
So should we post the mistakes?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 20:15:24 GMT -5
The Yankees Justin Upton bid is also illegal
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 20:15:59 GMT -5
Uh....I believe we need to get this right and define the rule coming up. Scherzer and Votto in this next round
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 20:19:12 GMT -5
I hope we can get some more TRP people to comment on it...it's already been a full week since these bids were passed through, and both Upton/Price were given to their new teams. I'm fine with amending it, I understand the rule and I'll avoid it in the future but I'm not sure how well Yankees is going to take this. Plus both of you guys are gonna need to match or not match the next highest legal bid way after the deadline past. Can one of the three commissioners weigh in on this?
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Post by Brewers GM (Larry) on Jan 26, 2015 20:21:31 GMT -5
I feel like we need to post all the front loading/backloading rules whenever we post the big RFA thread along with the minimum years per amount AAS you offer as well as the compensation...that's a pretty big deal when offering a contract. That's 2 years in a row where I bid on one of your free agents Mike and both times a different buried rule is gonna beat me up. I may just stay away from your RFA guys lol. Complete rules should always be posted at the same time we post RFA & FA |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 20:32:09 GMT -5
If I know the next legal bid, I'll tell you right now if I'm matching.
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Post by Angels GM (Jason) on Jan 26, 2015 22:28:36 GMT -5
If bids are illegal than the next legal bid wins and all trades involving illegal contracts will be voided.
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Post by Angels GM (Jason) on Jan 26, 2015 22:36:51 GMT -5
Can someone check on the next legal bids? I'm not in a position to do so. If anyone wants to volunteer to help update the rules section let us know. I tried to illicit help a couple years ago to do so with no luck and now I just don't have the free time to spend like I did then.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 23:30:50 GMT -5
Should we allow all trades made by Yankees after he thought he received David Price in RFA to be voidable by him due to the circumstances?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 23:32:26 GMT -5
I'd say trade yes but not players cut
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Post by Angels GM (Jason) on Jan 26, 2015 23:34:23 GMT -5
Trades yes drops no
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 23:34:33 GMT -5
Should over turn all trade he's done,not just selective ones
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 23:36:18 GMT -5
Well what we could do is contact both parties of each trade made since the RFA decision and ask if they still want the trade to go through. If either says no, we do the usual veto you have 48 hours to renegotiate.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 23:38:12 GMT -5
If we just cleared all trades and the two parties want to trade they'll just repost it. The rest just complicates it
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Post by Angels GM (Jason) on Jan 27, 2015 0:03:08 GMT -5
Any trade involving price and trade by the yanks there after by the yanks to get under the cap IE Paxton should be voided. Any trade other than that should stand bbecause price had no bearing on the outcome
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 0:05:58 GMT -5
Any trade involving price and trade by the yanks there after by the yanks to get under the cap IE Paxton should be voided. Any trade other than that should stand bbecause price had no bearing on the outcome I'd be okay with that |
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Post by Angels GM (Jason) on Jan 27, 2015 0:08:58 GMT -5
I voided the yanks/giant Those two should be all of them
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Post by Angels GM (Jason) on Jan 27, 2015 0:18:36 GMT -5
I'm also allowing the yanks to pick up the specs he dropped, it's only fair
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