Pirates/Jarrod Parker

[Angels GM (Jason)]

I received the following PM from Jimmy regarding Jarrod Parker's contract:

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What is the possibility of attaching a Franchise tag to a Protected Prospect who has not attained eligibility and receiving the PP value of $.4M? It would be attached to Jarrod Parker (who everyone agrees is not worth his $11m / yr). Understandably, any PP player that is eligible (Span for example) can have a tag attached to at anypoint to attain his current contract... for a Protected Prospect their current contract would be the league minimum of $.4m (both here and real life).

It would be a huge benfit for a small market team like myself to eliminate his $11m off the books and give me more payroll flexibilty and also not waste a Franchise tag (or make it more useful)... and as well I dont see why it cant be done if other PP players can have tags attached before their PP status ends...

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Just my preliminary thought is I don't know if we should open this can of worms. I don't want a GM to think they could sign a top free agent prospect/player expecting an exemption a few years later. I do realize Jimmy did not sign Parker but he did trade from him fully aware of his steep contract and how it would figure into his "small market" cap space.

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Just an idea. We should be able to tag a player with a prospect tag once that player passes 150AB/50IP. The prospect tag is only for two years after that the player has to be tagged until he gets a long term deal.

I'd be good with this or not doing it at all.

[Angels GM (Jason)]

I agree if we do decide to do something it should be league wide.

[Brewers GM (Larry)]

Dec 14, 2011 11:46:27 GMT -5 @anton3986 said:

Just an idea. We should be able to tag a player with a prospect tag once that player passes 150AB/50IP. The prospect tag is only for two years after that the player has to be tagged until he gets a long term deal.

I'd be good with this or not doing it at all.

I agree with Anton. We can't have players being signed for crazy amounts (like I did with Parker) just to allow them to tag them the next year at $400K. OK with it once player reaches 150/50

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Eh...I don't like the idea. Because then someone can backload contracts, spent a ton on a prospect the first year and then after 1 year prospect tag him and do it again.

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Only possibility I could see there is if they were tagged two years in a row. For instance. He would tag Parker now for .4M for one year which would be his"real life contract" . Then tag him again next year to get the pp at .4M. But honestly the way we have it set you can cut him now and not owe him at all next year. I think allowing that would Nerf the process but would be open only to the double tag.

[Angels GM (Jason)]

thats what I had told Jimmy, I will let him know wehve decided to stick with the system in place.

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Bump

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Anton I think you're confused. John Axford was signed to an MLB contract while Parker was given the $11M MILB contract. Matthew wants to take a player he signed in free agency, place a franchise tag on him and make him a PP.

Jarrod Parker was already a PP because he was a prospect when he was signed in MILB FA...just at $11M instead of .4M. It's a bit different.

[Angels GM (Jason)]

I did a search on hammel and I don't see that Hammel was ever tagged, in fact I found this


Orioles will not tag:

SP- Jason Hammel (Rockies) (UFA)
SP- Andrew Miller (Red Sox) (UFA)

I see that the Cubs signed him 2/18/2012:
fullcountbaseball.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=winingbids&thread=4744&page=1

so, I am not sure if jared let matthew tag Hammel to get his PP status

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I don't see him in the franchise section either...he may have kept Hammel without franchising him.

[Angels GM (Jason)]

found it, he was franchised by matthew:

fullcountbaseball.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=franchised&action=display&thread=2467