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Post by Angels GM (Jason) on Feb 2, 2015 9:57:24 GMT -5
We need to start throwing ideas around for draft picks for both and RFA for Rays, as I have little confidence neither will be on anytime soon.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 10:05:25 GMT -5
My top two guys would be
1) Carlos Rodon
2) Kyle Schwarber
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 10:16:24 GMT -5
I say keep Motte (frontload), Let Victorino walk
and Rodon / Schwarber as well.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 10:20:17 GMT -5
Motte 15: 4M 16: 2.5M 17: 1M
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Post by Brewers GM (Larry) on Feb 2, 2015 10:52:07 GMT -5
WE should go by MLB draft to decide what picks to give them.
1.Kolek
2.Rodon
3.Schwarber
4.Gordon
5.Jackson
6.Nola
7.Freeland
8.Hoffman
9.Conforto
10. Pentecost
ETC:
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Post by Angels GM (Jason) on Feb 2, 2015 10:53:47 GMT -5
I like the mlb draft way, it's takes subjectivity out of it and makes it easier on us later in the draft
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 12:18:48 GMT -5
I disagree with using the mlb draft to dictate unowned teams picks. I think these two team need the best talent possible and ever publication has those two guys as the best prospects. Plus this theory gets much harder in the later rounds.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 12:20:59 GMT -5
A lot of major-league teams also put big emphasis on cost and signability not talent.
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Post by Giants GM (Ron) on Feb 2, 2015 12:43:05 GMT -5
I can see both sides of the discussion. The problem I see is beyond Round 1. How do we assess need/talent for these teams? I have no problem with us making the determination for them, especially since the MLB teams made these picks months ago and if were doing it again, now, they probably would do some things differently. I agree Rodon/Schwarber, but could also make a case for Kolek.
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Post by Angels GM (Jason) on Feb 2, 2015 13:30:44 GMT -5
I'm good with rodon/schwarbet..sshould we post now or give some time?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 13:40:31 GMT -5
Yah I say post it.
The draft order method once we get into later rounds will be really worthless. This isnt like a fantasy football league where you have an autodraft for best available based on rankings
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 16:28:26 GMT -5
I just think it could ruin the integrity of the draft if we take our own intentions to decide who we want to autodraft for teams. Because if one of us has a certain guy that we want, we may be more inclined to say "let them take this guy instead." I'd be for the using real life draft order to decide who to take...it may not give them the best player but it takes no time or effort to decide who we'll need to give a team and we won't have to stop the draft and discuss "who should we give them here?" every single time. Plus like I said...no biases involved.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 16:53:28 GMT -5
I think that method is in itself more biased, because it is just an easy pass and giving the team inferior talent. If a certain person has a pick within 5 picks leave them out of the decision making, and let the others decide. We have a good crew here. Just giving empty teams the order of the mlb draft is not the best thing for the league.
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Post by Brewers GM (Larry) on Feb 2, 2015 18:31:37 GMT -5
So who decides what's the best pick? Seems we are being a little self serving here. Again we are leaving the LO up for more complaints from owners
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 18:33:21 GMT -5
And we don't even have a clock on this draft...like I told you guys, I didn't think we were ready to start the draft. I think we needed another week to sort out who had which pick and figure out how we would autodraft for the open teams. I can see why Yankees was skeptical about our league...we are really slacking with how we operate and communicate with our members.
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Post by Brewers GM (Larry) on Feb 2, 2015 18:42:45 GMT -5
And we don't even have a clock on this draft...like I told you guys, I didn't think we were ready to start the draft. I think we needed another week to sort out who had which pick and figure out how we would autodraft for the open teams. I can see why Yankees was skeptical about our league...we are really slacking with how we operate and communicate with our members. Still need to start draft, Can't keep putting it off. Unless we are trying the wait for Morando to sign LOL Wouldn't have a problem picking for those empty teams if we use MLB order. Why must we make everything difficult??? |
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Post by Brewers GM (Larry) on Feb 2, 2015 18:44:51 GMT -5
Where is the list of open teams? This should be posted somwhere
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Post by Angels GM (Jason) on Feb 2, 2015 18:53:43 GMT -5
I know Jared posted time limit under league news. I'll find it and bump it
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 19:20:24 GMT -5
So couple thoughts here. The whole idea of these leagues is to mimic real life to the extent possible. We do a rather good job of that. With that in mind, here is my proposal and it should eliminate this International Player issue.
#1- The MLB draft should be just that, the MLB draft. Even players not on rosters are not eligible.
#2- Assign International Free Agent dollars that teams can spend just like MLB baseball does and allow them to be Free Agents
#3- Free Agency after the draft should cover any player not on one of our rosters.
In my opinion it limits confusion and creates some fairness in this.
As for the who the Rays should pick, the next two on my list are Nick Gordon or Kyle Schwarber.
MLB top 100 would be Tyler Kolek or Nick Gordon
Keith Law top 100 would be Tyler Kolek or Michael Conforto
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 20:26:42 GMT -5
Sickles had Schwarber as A- prospect which I believ is his highest of the remaing guys
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2015 20:28:41 GMT -5
Gordon would still be a good pick
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Post by Angels GM (Jason) on Feb 2, 2015 20:34:25 GMT -5
Did sickles release rankings on the marlins yet? because I can't find them
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Post by Angels GM (Jason) on Feb 3, 2015 7:55:56 GMT -5
Mets are OTC till 3:00pm est, please decide who the Mets select if the Mets don't. I can make a very solid case for three guys but because I have the next pick I want to stay out of it. I also don't have an issue waiting a few hours to make my selection if you want to give the Mets some more time.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 8:37:12 GMT -5
We need I have a pick before you pick jason. It wouldn't be fair to the rays my vote is still Schwarber
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 9:23:21 GMT -5
How many teams are we expecting to pick for? One option once we get out of the top 20 (where placement matters more), Is to offer up the teams current picks for the same round picks in next years draft for anyone not in TRP (in fairness). Kind of kick the can down the road and hope we have them filled next year. I would rather do this than just likely waste the picks on following MLB draft order.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 9:37:55 GMT -5
I still say pick Schwarber.
As a least case, we should combine Sickles Grades with MLB Draft order. So go through A-, B+ , Bs , B- , C+ compared and differentiate by draft order so we aren't just dumping shit on their teams. I know all teams haven't been done yet, but this provides structure and value.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 10:08:23 GMT -5
From quick research,
Marlins and yanks have no picks
rays have 1st/3rd
Boston has decent amount
Nats has 1/4/5
Mariners haver 1/2/3/4
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Post by Rangers GM (Jared) on Feb 3, 2015 10:41:21 GMT -5
I did not realize we had this many teams that weren't logging on. That is quite a few. I thought Nats, Rays, Bosox had owners. We really need to get active on finding some new owners ASAP. Anybody want some responsibility there. I don't really have the time right now in the Winter.
I say we go best available, not draft order. Go majority vote on TRP. It's going to suck for some people, including guys on here when you lose a guy you wanted though. But I agree with Jordan. What's best for these teams is not giving them the guy that's fallen hard since the draft. I vote Schwarber for the Rays at 3.
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Post by Rangers GM (Jared) on Feb 3, 2015 10:42:01 GMT -5
I like Jason's idea of breaking tie breakers with Sickels rating, but he hasn't done 6 or 7 teams yet which makes that difficult.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 10:44:35 GMT -5
We have a gm for the Nats unless he quit recently. We need Marlins, Redsox, O's, yankees, Mariners, and rays
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